Does
it mean, to be just and righteous is to mean we cannot be forgiving? Or is it we MUST still be forgiving, even as
we are to be just and righteous. Are we
to tolerate injustice and unrighteousness? Or do we tolerate some but NOT
others, like we tolerate when we are NOT directly hit by it (or NOT yet!), the
injustice or unrighteousness? And, tolerate means we can numb our conscience? Such
issues cannot be easily addressed in an article of a few pages; what I write
below is just touching the surface only, so to speak.
Indeed
we should be a people of justice. The
Word has it (in Ps 89:14) that the foundation of God’s throne (and therefore,
rule) is the twin pillars of justice and righteousness. And it added love and faithfulness (mercy and
loving-kindness) [be allowed] to come before Him. And so, rightly, we should be indignant with
all these horrendous crimes/sins we hear and seen on the news (TVs, etc) all
over the world. We should NOT numb our
conscience to all of these, and could just regard all these as “it is like
that-one-lah”. We read that Jesus was
indignant before; He was indignant when He saw the Temple was used as a “den of
robbers”.
Should
we be tolerant of such wrongful acts or sins (like those we hear and seen on
the news)? I think a simple yes or no, is NOT the way to answer such issue, for
different people have different idea of what tolerance is to include and mean. Then, is there or is there NOT an issue of we
need to forgive the people who did those wrongful acts or sins that we are NOT
directly being impacted by it at the moment?
The
perspective from the Word I believe includes this:
Sins we do NOT
tolerate,
meaning we should NOT just let these offences just continue on,
unrestrained. It means we cannot apply
caveat emptor into this and say, “Each is to beware; you just watch out
yourself; it is like that, ‘a dog-eat-dog world’; if you get mugged, too bad
for you-lo.” No, that is the animal
world; we are NOT animals. We are Man,
NOT animals (No, I don’t believe we are/from monkeys!) Sin is to be hated, and NOT to be taken
lightly. We don’t condone sins, or just
ignore them, or excuse them.
Even
if the wrongs or sins are NOT done to us, directly (but on other people, like
we hear or see them on the news), still wrongs/sins are wrongs/sins; they
should NOT be tolerated, and so, when we are in position of influence, we
should influence accordingly. For
example, if bullying is happening in the school where you are a teacher, even
though the wrong is NOT done to you, you are in a position of influence and you
should try to influence, so that such a wrong (bullying) will cease. The attitude of “Nowadays, it is rampant in
schools, I will just teach my subject (like Mathematics), that’s all”, is NOT
right. There are channels which we can
use to influence (so that the wrong/sin will cease), and we should use them.
We still love the
sinner! Does the Word prescribe that? I believe so.
(But
if you are asking if the phrase of “love the sinner but hate the sin” is from
the Bible, DIRECTLY, it is NOT. Its
origin is believed to be from St. Augustine’s Letter 211 (c. 424) [Cum
dilectione hominum et odio vitiorum - translates roughly to "With love for
mankind and hatred of sins."] Some say that Jude 1:23 pointed to it;
“Rescue others by snatching them from the flames of judgment. Show mercy to
still others, but do so with great caution, hating the sins that contaminate
their lives.” {NLT version – other versions read differently} Others said that the story of the adulterous
woman who was NOT stoned pointed to it.). The phrase is NOT directly from the Bible,
but the way is.
How
does it work; hate the sin but NOT the sinner? It cannot make sense until you and I identify
with God. I repeat you can be hating sin
and loving the sinner only when you are identified with God. In this respect, identification with God,
means “That is what God, in His holiness and love, would like to see happening,
and we agree to it, subscribe to it, and give effect to it, we having been a
recipient of it.”
Justice
and righteousness is the foundation of God’s throne; we can see it
said in Ps 89:14 (as mentioned above), and we can also see it repeated in Ps
97:2. This means God actually have all
the right to “do sinners in” immediately, so to speak. He has [however] allowed love and faithfulness [mercy
and lovingkindness] to come before Him.
What
does the second part of Ps 89:14 about love and faithfulness to go before Him,
mean? It means in His administration of His rule
with justice and righteousness as the pillars, He allows love and faithfulnesss
[mercy and lovingkindness] a voice – to speak for the offender or mediate, so
to speak. And so, God, in His mercy has often refrained
from punishing immediate (letting out His wrath) (But note that still, it does
NOT mean He has given up His right to punish or chastise, immediate. It also
does NOT mean the foundation of God’s rule is love and faithfulness; that would
be wrong. The foundation is still
justice and righteousness).
The
overall counsel of the Word tells us that God in His love, wants to give people
opportunities to turn from the wrongs or sins, or to repent. God is a holy God, and accordingly, justice
and righteousness is foundation of His rule and Kingdom. It is NOT His desire
that we be destroyed from His holiness (holiness’ demand); rather it is His
desire that we be forgiven, so much so that, He gave His own Son, Jesus, to be
the atonement for our sins. We have been a recipient of such love and
faithfulness of God, haven’t we? Yes, we
have; otherwise, we would have been “dead-meat” a long time ago!
How
do we go from here? I perceive this: “We do NOT administer justice
ourselves”. What do I mean by that? One, we are NOT to administer justice
according to our own righteousness and justice.
The justice and righteousness are those of God, NOT our own. Two, we do NOT administer justice ourselves
in that we do NOT administer justice for our own case.
Then,
there is no justice? No, God deals with the justice on our behalf;
and it is we have to let God deals with the justice as He wishes. But why?
Because He is your master! We turn to the metaphor of a slave-master
relationship or we can look at a child-father relationship, in our attempt to
understand this proposition. I will try
to be brief and use the child-father relationship.
Now,
suppose a child of yours [A] (and so, you are the father) bullied another child
of yours [B], who incidentally, has previously bullied his younger sister(!);
how should this be handled? Is B to administer his own justice, in that B is
going to take matters into his own hand?
The answer is no. Is B to
administer his own justice, in that, according to his own sense of justice and
righteousness, he would do A in, so to speak, like maybe get a friend to push A
off a tall building! It is a no,
too. B is NOT to take things into his
own hands, and he also cannot apply his own justice. [Sound familiar? Cain and Abel story?!]
What
would you, the father, say to B? What is
the thing that B is to do? B has to tell
himself this: “I will tell daddy (you, the father), and let daddy deal with A,
that A have bullied me”. B has to remind
himself that he, too, previously has done wrong (he did bully his younger
sister or did other wrongs to his siblings).
Now,
you, the father, do you tell B this, “You should hate your brother, A; he has
done you injustice!”? Or do you tell B NOT to hate or bear grudge or harbour
resentment and bitterness against A?
You,
the father may say this to B, “My son, remember, the last time you bullied your
sister, I forgave you, should you NOT also forgive your brother, A? Son, you should just forgive him, A; and let
me deal with him.” A word to sum this,
is “deference” (Believers are slaves to Christ Jesus, the Master; slaves don’t
administer their own justice [when injustice is done to them]; they defer it to
their master, and it is up to their master to deal as the master deems fit –
same idea).
We
can see, it is NOT bullying is NOT wrong, but it is that B is to forgive A; it
is that B has no longer the right to matter of forgiveness, he (B) is to
forgive; the right to forgive or NOT to forgive, lies with the father.
We
have wronged God and wronged other people, but God has forgiven us, by
grace. We, as a believer, no longer
has the right to “NOT forgive”; we are to forgive, and defer justice for
wrongs done to us, to God for Him to deal with, as He knows fit. Scripture said vengeance belongs to God (and
so, NOT to us [no longer, to us]).
Why
all over the world (thank God, it is still so!), do we find, we do NOT take the
law into our own hands? When wrong is
done to us, we don’t take the law into our own hands; someone, the authority
(police, judge, etc), administers justice for the case. And these “magistrates”, they are
under-magistrates to the Great Magistrate (God). “Under-“ means there are matters which we may
have to defer to the one above (this idea, also applies to under-shepherds; we [pastors,
spiritual leaders] are under-shepherds; the Lord is the Great Shepherd). We can understand, the man-magistrate, he
does NOT deal with the (personal) forgiveness matter; and rightly, it is so,
for the forgiveness matter is a matter between the offender and the
victim. And so, our forgiveness for
another who offended us, is independent of legal proceedings of a court or any
out-of-court settlement. Forgiveness is
NOT “if or when I get the damages/compensation [the court is going to award to
me], I will forgive him-lo!” If it is merited by the offender [compensate you
back], it is no forgiveness! Forgiveness
is to be BEFORE THAT, independent of any recompense.
In
this sense, a court does NOT damn a criminal to Hell, directly; the only case
of it is “helping” one (though NOT culpable) to Hell is when there is immediate
capital punishment, where unrepentant offender is summarily executed, leaving
the death-convict little or no time to repent.
As a side, so my view on capital punishment is that it should be
reserved for extremely bad cases, if at all, we do NOT want to do away with it;
and when there is capital punishment, actual execution should NOT be soon, to
give time and opportunity for the death-convict to come to the Lord, and/or
repent (I know it still costs money to keep a death-row convict in prison; but
I still say, “So what!”).
Bro
Anthony, are you saying, when we are wronged, we cannot ask for compensation of
sort?
No, I am NOT saying that; but you must
forgive first (in your heart; our [believers’] forgiveness is rendered [out of]
“unto the Lord”), and it is independent of any recompense. You can ask for recompense, but whether you
get or get NOT the recompense, you must in no way to double-back on your
forgiveness (which you have done so, in your heart). If NOT getting a recompense would put you in hardship,
you can tell God about it, and trust that God will make a way for you. Also, do bear in mind the overtone in the
Parable of the Unmerciful Servant (Matt 18:23-35). Matt 18:35 (KJV) reads, “So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if
ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.”
[The lord of the unmerciful servant delivered the servant to the tormentors].
Ps
Prentis is right (in this blog entry) to say “We should be [a] people of
justice. Forgiveness is putting ultimate justice in God's hands. Forgiveness
refuses to seek revenge and hopes for repentance.”
I
just want to explain a little more on the “forgiveness hopes for repentance”,
although I have said above that forgiveness is independent of recompense. We are to forgive, by grace, for Col 3:13
said that we are to forgive as God forgave us, meaning forgiving in the same
way God forgave us, meaning, we, too have to forgive by grace. By grace, means the offender does NOT need to
provide any merit; and so, I was NOT wrong to say we no longer have the right
to “NOT forgive” another. We are to
forgive, rightaway.
What
if the offender is NOT repentant at all, even still deviant?! We are still to forgive, rightaway, in our
heart! A distinction needs to made
between forgiving (in our heart, we forgive or have forgiven) and
releasing forgiveness.
To
forgive, we have to, rightaway.
You forgive first, and then you hope for repentance on the part of the
offender, and so, it is forgiveness hopes for repentance. If you have forgiven NOT, there is no
forgiveness, and so, there is NOT the “forgiveness hopes for repentance”. It is NOT the other way round, as far as what
you (the one who has been wronged) are required to do; you don’t wait until the
offender has repented before you forgive!
If it were the case, it wouldn’t be “forgiveness hopes for
repentance”.
It
is only in the releasing of the forgiveness, already wrought in our heart, to
the person (offender), we look for prima facie repentance. When there is no prima facie evidence of
repentance, you hold back the releasing of forgiveness to the person (BUT NOT
the forgiveness of the person in your heart).
Why we do it this way, the RELEASING of forgiveness, is due to the
doctrine of, we are our brother’s keeper, which much emphasizes that we must
NOT mislead a brother. If you
release forgiveness to the offender, before any (prima facie) evidence of
repentance, you could be signalling to him (and it is wrong) that it is alright
for him to have done what he/she had done (the wrong or sin).
Now,
a test of you have NOT already forgiven another (in your heart)
[which you must do], is when the person shows repentance, even just prima facie
evidence (like he/she says, “I am sorry”), and is before you waiting for the
releasing of forgiveness by you, to him/her, you will NOT give it. So, do NOT deceive yourself; ask yourself,
this question, “If the person is before me, now, and ask for my forgiveness,
will I be able to release the forgiveness?”
If you cannot, you have NOT forgiven the person in and from your heart,
which you must do.
You
don’t want to forgive! Then how are
you going to deal with Matt 6:14-15, Ps Prentis has given, as his opening
scripture text for his blog entry?
Matt
6:14-15 – 14 For if you forgive other people when
they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. 15 But if you
do not forgive others their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.
Or
are you going to say, “My overly grace preacher/leader tells us that we don’t
need to ask God for forgiveness anymore, once we have become a believer; and
so, I can ignore that text!” Listen to
me, we have to continue to ask God for forgiveness, because we do sin. Stop kidding yourself! By being
unforgiving, you hinder your blessing from God (including, at times, the
receipt of healing from the Lord for pains/sickness in our body).
Finally,
before I end, I will touch on whether or NOT there is the issue of forgiveness
from us for those wrongs or sins done NOT on us, directly, like those we hear
or see on the news. For the “victims”, they have to forgive; it
is personal to them, and in their personal way, they have to forgive the
offender(s). For us, the “general people”,
we too, forgive.
For
many, these wrongs/sins do NOT “haunt” them, in so personal sort of way, and
they do NOT find it too difficult to “NOT hold resentment and hatred” towards
the offender(s). The test is still the
same (the one suggested above), if the offender(s) is/are before you, and
he/they ask you for forgiveness (which is unlikely the case, that the offender
will ask you [who are NOT directly wronged]), will you release it?! So, unless it “haunts” you, you only need to
have the right understanding and resolved in your heart that you forgive all
such non-personal offences (done to other fellow men); you don’t necessarily
have to come before the Lord, over every wrong/sin in the world, to say that
you forgive the offender(s), for each case, specifically; it is in your heart
you forgive them all (you can and should intercede against wrongs/sins, though);
and the test above applies.
For
some, such non-personal offences/wrongs/sins “haunt” them in a personal sort of
way, nonetheless! For example, when a
bullying incident has a racist overtone, some people let the offence hit them
in a personal kind of way, and bear resentment against the race (race of the
offender(s)). When the wrong/sin hits
that way, you have to specifically forgive the offender(s) in your heart, as if
the wrong/sin was done to you. The
point is that as believers, we have to forgive, and cannot bear any grudge,
resentment or bitterness.
Bro
Anthony, are you saying the law should NOT go after the offenders? The presence of the law (of the country) or
legal system does NOT contradict the ways of God. From Scripture, we can see a society judicial
system was developed in the time of Moses, with his father-in-law’s
suggestion. It is what is in the law
or how it is being administered that can offend the ways of God.
Laws
is necessary for law and order, so that there will NOT be chaos, so that there
will be restraints on the part of men, so that the wrath of God does NOT get
incurred so very often and to the extent that God has to mete out His wrath. I have already said a little of my personal
view on capital punishment; generally, the laws (country laws) serve to
chastise, and that generally speaking, is NOT against the ways of God. I believe, to God, He is the only one to decide
on the Heaven or Hell issue (punishment in finality); and meanwhile,
chastisements (punishment in chastisement) are expected and generally speaking,
is part of His ways. Some people said
the saying, “You reap what you sow” is NOT from Scripture. No, it is in Scripture, in Gal 6:7 – “Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps
what he sows.” Generally
speaking, that a person has to pay for his crimes/wrongdoings is NOT out of line
with Scripture.
Anthony Chia,
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PS:
I know I am far from arrived. And so,
even as I know, I still have a long way to go, in living out the truths and
ways of God.